this-- this is a piece that both clinton and obama admire. and other-- . >> rose: do you think they admire it because they think hey, first of all it's good drama, good acting, a fascinating plot which you don't know because it takes this direction. but also they admire it because of what you have just articulated, throughout this conversation, hope and optimism. >> i hope so. but first and foremost, they're in the opening credits. so i know they love that. but i do think-- . >> rose: so is ronald reagan. >> absolutely. but i do think, i think-- . >> rose: george bush. >> i think they enjoy the possibilities that exist. you know stephen sondheim at the end of his great piece that i got to be a part of, sunday in the park with george, the final wordses were, he puts his hands up to frame the painting of sunday afternoon on the island-- and he says so many possibilities. actually what was write was white, a blank page or canvas, his favorite. so many possibilities. and great minds, great leaders recognize that there are infinite possibilities t